Comments for CafeInspirado.com http://CafeInspirado.com thoughts on living la vida inspirada ... the inspired life Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:21:47 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Marilyn S http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-401 Marilyn S Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:21:47 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-401 Many churches use a cooperative method to deliver humanitarian aid, food, disaster relief, send out missionaries. I for one don't mind the government using a cooperative method to disperse health care to the masses who don't have it and stand to lose the pathetic little they've earned in the event they do become seriously ill. I would do that via increased taxes. I know, I live in one of the reddest tea drinking states in the country, but I can't in good conscience let the governement subsidize my own health insurance then - with an almost indignant arrogance - complain if they want more taxes to offer at least minimal healthcare to the least of these..... Am I a commie-socialist? I don't know. Are the churches who do this commie-socialist? No. [via Facebook] Many churches use a cooperative method to deliver humanitarian aid, food, disaster relief, send out missionaries. I for one don’t mind the government using a cooperative method to disperse health care to the masses who don’t have it and stand to lose the pathetic little they’ve earned in the event they do become seriously ill. I would do that via increased taxes. I know, I live in one of the reddest tea drinking states in the country, but I can’t in good conscience let the governement subsidize my own health insurance then – with an almost indignant arrogance – complain if they want more taxes to offer at least minimal healthcare to the least of these….. Am I a commie-socialist? I don’t know. Are the churches who do this commie-socialist? No.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Shai E http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-400 Shai E Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:21:14 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-400 I wish there were a simple answer but this is such a complex issue that affects so many people. Myself included... I honestly don't have a clue as to what to do, other than marry a gay man who has good health benefits (j/k) or continue to pray God will provide a way for those of us who need procedures to get them. I totally believe in the power of prayer...but there simply has to be another option. For those of us without insurance, you literally have to be dying for an ER to do anything other than give you a band aid, a prescription, a sucks to be you and send you on your way. If I were having a child, rather than needing knee surgery there would be tons of help available though. (I'm not saying make unborn children go without either, but there has to be a better balance) I'm all for a public health care option if it makes good quality care available to people but I really just don't have much faith in our government or how comprehensive that option would be. It's sad but we live in a world where money speaks loudly and the majority of the good Dr's will go where the money is. And can we blame them, really? It makes me sad that I live in a country where so many people go bankrupt, simply because they cannot afford basic essentials like health care. [via Facebook] I wish there were a simple answer but this is such a complex issue that affects so many people. Myself included… I honestly don’t have a clue as to what to do, other than marry a gay man who has good health benefits (j/k) or continue to pray God will provide a way for those of us who need procedures to get them. I totally believe in the power of prayer…but there simply has to be another option.

For those of us without insurance, you literally have to be dying for an ER to do anything other than give you a band aid, a prescription, a sucks to be you and send you on your way. If I were having a child, rather than needing knee surgery there would be tons of help available though. (I’m not saying make unborn children go without either, but there has to be a better balance)

I’m all for a public health care option if it makes good quality care available to people but I really just don’t have much faith in our government or how comprehensive that option would be.

It’s sad but we live in a world where money speaks loudly and the majority of the good Dr’s will go where the money is. And can we blame them, really?

It makes me sad that I live in a country where so many people go bankrupt, simply because they cannot afford basic essentials like health care.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Phillip L http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-399 Phillip L Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:20:09 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-399 despite whatever poltiical stance that we have, i think that we can all agree that the system is broken, the question on the table is what can the church and followers of Christ do to help alleviate some of the pain that this broken system leaves in its wake. i have my opinions on tort reform (which is a part of the pie, but not the whole pie), anti-trust exemptions (which i agree should be repealed to allow competition across state lines), and other hot button issues regarding health care and health care reform, but as to not create a firestorm, i will reserve those opinions for another time. Jesus wouldnt legislate the issue, he would be in the trenches to help people at the most personal level. and since we are called to be his feet and his hands, should we not do the same? what are we doing presently? can we do better as believers? [via Facebook] despite whatever poltiical stance that we have, i think that we can all agree that the system is broken, the question on the table is what can the church and followers of Christ do to help alleviate some of the pain that this broken system leaves in its wake. i have my opinions on tort reform (which is a part of the pie, but not the whole pie), anti-trust exemptions (which i agree should be repealed to allow competition across state lines), and other hot button issues regarding health care and health care reform, but as to not create a firestorm, i will reserve those opinions for another time. Jesus wouldnt legislate the issue, he would be in the trenches to help people at the most personal level. and since we are called to be his feet and his hands, should we not do the same? what are we doing presently? can we do better as believers?

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Stephan B http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-398 Stephan B Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:19:36 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-398 what we don't do is give it to the government to run. costs need to be contained and government aint gonna do that - not without drastically cutting back on services. Let's start with tort reform and opening up the insuramce industry to true competition by getting rid of anti-trust exemption. [via Facebook] what we don’t do is give it to the government to run. costs need to be contained and government aint gonna do that – not without drastically cutting back on services. Let’s start with tort reform and opening up the insuramce industry to true competition by getting rid of anti-trust exemption.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Phillip L http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-397 Phillip L Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:19:09 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-397 @ Dean. Right now healthcare is 16% of the GDP. it is projected to rise to 20% in the very near future. the cliff is approaching rapidly, and partisan politics has cut the brakes. [via Facebook] @ Dean. Right now healthcare is 16% of the GDP. it is projected to rise to 20% in the very near future. the cliff is approaching rapidly, and partisan politics has cut the brakes.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Dean C http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-396 Dean C Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:18:38 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-396 I almost wrecked my car one day listening to a Catholic talk show. They were discussing the Health care issue and a caller asked why churches are not more vocal in this matter since they butt into everything else. (ok I added the last part). They answered that the church is only interested in making sure that everyone has access to healthcare which is not a problem in the US. UGH apparently the ER is enough access for Catholic Church as well as the other silent denominations. Plus it is better for their pocketbooks. Personally ER is not good enough, and from personal experience from the last 2 years some insurance providers are about as effective as having no insurance at all. I long for the day when the hospitals were run not for profit and medical cost comprised less than 5 percent of our GNP (I think it is approaching 20 percent now). There is no incentive to get anyone better or to keep people well as long as someone is making a profit off of healthcare (at every step). In my opinion everyone in the process has to give something up for the better of the country. Jesus being a healer would provide the health care. [via Facebook] I almost wrecked my car one day listening to a Catholic talk show. They were discussing the Health care issue and a caller asked why churches are not more vocal in this matter since they butt into everything else. (ok I added the last part). They answered that the church is only interested in making sure that everyone has access to healthcare which is not a problem in the US. UGH apparently the ER is enough access for Catholic Church as well as the other silent denominations. Plus it is better for their pocketbooks. Personally ER is not good enough, and from personal experience from the last 2 years some insurance providers are about as effective as having no insurance at all. I long for the day when the hospitals were run not for profit and medical cost comprised less than 5 percent of our GNP (I think it is approaching 20 percent now). There is no incentive to get anyone better or to keep people well as long as someone is making a profit off of healthcare (at every step). In my opinion everyone in the process has to give something up for the better of the country. Jesus being a healer would provide the health care.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Angelica D http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-395 Angelica D Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:18:04 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-395 We do a loving and caring ministry like the hospitals used to be run by the catholic churches back in the old days. I think giving people a chance to be healthy is a vital part of ministry. [via Facebook] We do a loving and caring ministry like the hospitals used to be run by the catholic churches back in the old days. I think giving people a chance to be healthy is a vital part of ministry.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Phillip http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-394 Phillip Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:17:09 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-394 organize and sponsor regular free clinics, where we can focus on both emergent, primary, and preventative care. similar to the model set forth by: www.freeclinics.us. i think we should either do something similar, or wholeheartedly support an idea like this. [via Facebook] organize and sponsor regular free clinics, where we can focus on both emergent, primary, and preventative care. similar to the model set forth by: http://www.freeclinics.us. i think we should either do something similar, or wholeheartedly support an idea like this.

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]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Pat http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-389 Pat Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:37:27 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-389 Stephen, exactly what sort of proposal are we looking for? We can all object to some of the things we've heard that were asked for, but what exactly do we want and how do we propose the government handle it? You are right, the government has no problem in taking our money but in this case, I for one, have no idea as to how they should spend in when it comes to health care. It is sorely needed, no doubt, but do you have suggestions for your legislators, other than to act, as to what they should do? Stephen, exactly what sort of proposal are we looking for? We can all object to some of the things we’ve heard that were asked for, but what exactly do we want and how do we propose the government handle it?
You are right, the government has no problem in taking our money but in this case, I for one, have no idea as to how they should spend in when it comes to health care. It is sorely needed, no doubt, but do you have suggestions for your legislators, other than to act, as to what they should do?

]]> Comment on Health Care, Christianity and American Politics by Stephan B http://CafeInspirado.com/454/comment-page-1#comment-393 Stephan B Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:36:24 +0000 http://CafeInspirado.com/?p=454#comment-393 I admire the passion and the call to action, and , yes, I certainly believe the compassion you express is at the heart of Matthew 25. While the current system is clearly broken, we have to be careful not to rush into something worse. I know there are people suffering. But there are other horror stories too. My wife's cousin lived in the UK and contracted cancer. he was in his 50s and they wouldn't treat him. He just waited around knowing he was going to die without any hope. My father in law developed an aggressive form of cancer and a poor prognosis. he was in his late 60s. the difference was, he lives in the US. He received treatment and is thriving today. In the UK ( or canada, etc. etc.) he almost certainly would have died. The goals should be to increase coverage while controlling costs - but avoid rationing. Our system is too cumbersome, inefficient and bureaucratic. Increasing the role of government won't solve that. I have too believe there is a way to cover the 12 million or so uninsured without total governnment intrusion ( at least more than already exists) and without adding trillions to the debt. [via Facebook] I admire the passion and the call to action, and , yes, I certainly believe the compassion you express is at the heart of Matthew 25. While the current system is clearly broken, we have to be careful not to rush into something worse. I know there are people suffering. But there are other horror stories too. My wife’s cousin lived in the UK and contracted cancer. he was in his 50s and they wouldn’t treat him. He just waited around knowing he was going to die without any hope. My father in law developed an aggressive form of cancer and a poor prognosis. he was in his late 60s. the difference was, he lives in the US. He received treatment and is thriving today. In the UK ( or canada, etc. etc.) he almost certainly would have died. The goals should be to increase coverage while controlling costs – but avoid rationing. Our system is too cumbersome, inefficient and bureaucratic. Increasing the role of government won’t solve that. I have too believe there is a way to cover the 12 million or so uninsured without total governnment intrusion ( at least more than already exists) and without adding trillions to the debt.

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